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Долгая работа аккумулятора.
Широкие возможности персонализации, как тренировочных полей, так и общего интерфейса.
Легкость (буквальная невесомость)
Наличие приложения для телефонов и его Web-версии для ПК.
Наличие расширенного списка активностей (но все еще меньше, чем у Suunto).
Наличие окна погоды, альтиметра, барометра, датчики температуры.
Очень большой функционал GPS-навигации (запись трека, движение по треку, запись точек, компас, взятие направления, функция возврата, отклонение от курса, просмотр профиля высот во время тренировки в режиме навигации).
Возможность планирования тренировок заранее.
Недостатки:
Считаю главным недостатком, отсутствие КАЧЕСТВЕННОГО gps чипа. Тут стоит какой-то китайский, когда в Forerunner 945, Coros-ах, Suunto ставится современный чип от Sony.
Максимально плохой встроенный датчик пульса для тренировок. В покое считает хорошо.
Могут замерзнуть и выключиться, но тренировку после включения сразу продолжат.
Вряд ли подойдут для трекинга, альпинизма и подобных видов активности, в связи со своей сборкой и материалами. Часы пластиковые и первое столкновение с камнем убьет их.
Отсутствие режима "бег по стадиону" (как в 745-ой модели или Coros-ах).
Начинают глючить (задумываться при перемотке экранов) при установке сторонних циферблатов.
Откровенно устаревший интерфейс приложения.
Отсутствие обновлений.
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Опыт эксплуатации 1.5 года. Используются 24/7 в условиях тренировок 8ч. в неделю. Со своими задачами умных часов справляются хорошо, со спортивными еще лучше. Если вы присматриваете эту модель и сравниваете её с чем-то более дешевым или другими брендами, эта модель имеет колоссальную переоценку. Garmin имеет не совсем оправданный авторитет на рынке спортивных часов. Сейчас есть большой выбор альтернатив с возможно даже большим функционалом и при этом отличным интерфейсом приложения, обновлениями, оптимизациями и, что самое главное ценой на порядок меньшей.
Отличные часы, ориентированные в первую очередь на людей, занимающихся спортом.
Широкий диапазон спортивных функций для бега - пульс, темп, дистанция, интервальная работа. Можно настроить бег с виртуальным соперником с заданным темпом, можно создать и загрузить тренировку вручную, можно подключиться к программе тренировок и получать задания по календарю.
Огромный выбор видов спорта! Но оптимально, конечно, именно для бега.
невероятно легкие для своего размера - во время тренировки и забегов не ощущаешь их на руке вообще.
Возможность сопрягать часы с доп. аксессуарами для более точного сбора данных.
Тотальная интеграция в спортивные сервисы - Strava, Runtastic и пр. Все автоматически подгружается либо при соединении с телефоном либо при нахождении в домашней сети wi-fi.
Возможность цеплять часы к GPS, Глонасс, Галилео - как по отдельности, так и в связке. Точность учета данных всегда высочайшая (у меня расхождение с официальным хронометражом на забеге 6 сек на 10 км, что можно списать на допустимую погрешность и время отсечки).
Невероятно живучий аккумулятор - у меня при ежедневном использовании и 4 проведенных тренировках часы протянули 9 полных дней без подзарядки. Модным Apple Watch такое и не снилось.
Дисплей четкий и прекрасно читается при любом освещении и погоде - в яркую солнечную погоду даже лучше, чем в темноте.
Кнопочное управление, что гарантирует точность нажатий и возможность использовать кнопки хоть в сухую погоду, хоть под водой.
Недостатки:
Не очень красочный и контрастный экран с довольно большой рамкой для таких габаритов самих часов.
Визуализация функций для 2019 года слабая.
При переходе из одного виджета в другой или с экрана на экран заметны приличные подтормаживания.
Минеральное стекло, не устойчивое к царапинам - решается пленкой с aliexpress за 70 рублей.
Цена не гуманная - 500 евро за базовую модель без доп датчиков довольно много, но хорошие вещи редко бывают дешевыми.
Комментарий:
Очень доволен часами и все их минусы меркнут по сравнению с тем невероятным функционалом, который заложен в них! Это рабочая лошадка, которая ориентирована на точность результатов. а не на внешний вау-эффект.
Как можно сравнивать со смарт часами Apple Watch (да и Гэлакси), это разные вещи. Что могут они не может гармин. Что может гармин не могут они, в принципе подходы при разработке разные.
Как можно сравнивать со смарт часами Apple Watch (да и Гэлакси), это разные вещи. Что могут они не может гармин. Что может гармин не могут они, в принципе подходы при разработке разные.
Хороший удобный софт: в Garmin Connect есть вообще всё о чем только можно мечтать. Программы тренировок (отдельно беговые отдельно всякий фитнес/ йога/ силовые), возможность создавать цели, маршруты, отслеживать устаревание спорт-инвентаря, устраивать соревнования с друзьями, организовывать группы единомышленников, получать ачивки, тут же можно хранить данные про свой вес и даже менструальный цикл. Даже какие-то штуки для гольфа есть. Про стандартные функции типа уведомлений, будильников и говорить не приходится.
Считает кучу важных для бега параметров типа VO2 Max, каденса, общего спортивного состояния.
Данные можно легко экспортировать в другие приложения типа счетчиков калорий и прочих спортивных программ.
Очень точный шагомер.
Заряд при регулярных тренировках держит неделю-полторы.
Надежная конструкция. Я их больше года почти не снимаю, а выглядят они почти как новые.
Недостатки:
Почему-то неадекватно считают пульс во время кардио тренировок и HIIT. При этом с пульсом во время бега и в состоянии покоя всё ок. А тут бывало прыгаешь аж на пределе возможностей, а пульс по часам у тебя 80 ударов в минуту как во время ходьбы.
Если вам нужен инструмент, который адекватно считал бы ваши затраты калорий за день, то тут тоже мимо. За два дня с одинаковой активностью прибор может насчитать драматически разные затраты. Нет ему доверия.
Комментарий:
Это хорошие часы для любителя-бегуна, чтобы отслеживать свой прогресс, анализировать свои ошибки и исправлять их. В этом помогают и встроенные программы тренировок и адовое количество всяких данных и аналитики.
Кроме того это удобный повседневный аксессуар, на котором можно и погоду посмотреть и уведомление получить и будильник настроить.
Честно говоря, за такие деньги я немного разочарована точностью пульсометра и неумением часов считать энергозатраты, потому что рассчитывала использовать их для высокоинтенсивных интервальных тренировок, где поддерживать правильный пульс важно.
Год пользуюсь этими часами. Я думаю с пульсометром у вас все в порядке. У тренированного человека пульс моментально не улетает. Чтобы поднять пульс выше 140 мне самому нужно пробежать в быстром темпе около километра. А вы говорите что пытаетесь просто попрыгать, может пару минут. Замечательные часы. Я даже не могу придумать того что они не могут для тренировок.
Год пользуюсь этими часами. Я думаю с пульсометром у вас все в порядке. У тренированного человека пульс моментально не улетает. Чтобы поднять пульс выше 140 мне самому нужно пробежать в быстром темпе около километра. А вы говорите что пытаетесь просто попрыгать, может пару минут. Замечательные часы. Я даже не могу придумать того что они не могут для тренировок.
Друзья, решил купить себе спортивные часы, но не мог определиться с моделью. Хотел либо Polar либо Garmin. Мне очень повезло, что консультировал меня продавец по имени Степан. Очень ответственный, вежливый и грамотный продавец, отлично разбирается в различных часах. Рассказал мне о плюсах выбираемых моделей. Очень чутко проникся моим предпочтениям, и помог с выбором. Побольше бы таких профессионалов, и говорить приятно и узнал много полезного! Респект таким продавцам, дай бог им здоровья и крутых продаж! Потенциал у Степана огромный, умеет завоевать доверие! Рекомендую имеено его при покупке товара, не пожалеете! Всем успешных покупок, а магазину процветания!
Почти месяц работают автономно. Тренировки 2-3 раза в неделю могут снизить автономность до 2-3 недель.
Все функции работают как ожидается. Постоянно приходят обновления, но что улучшают не особенно понятно, всё и так отлично.
Недостатки:
Порой сбоит при подсчёте дистанции в бассейне, нужен чёткий толчок от борта - может пропустить проплыв и нельзя останавливаться посреди бассейна - может засчитать лишний.
Прекрасный дизайн, интуитивно-понятное простое меню управления, автономное время работы.
Недостатки:
Вот чуть-чуть бы больше экран
Комментарий:
Полгода выбирал себе водонепроницаемые часы. Просто современные часы без музыки и тачскрина. Вокруг все носят "хорошо известные квадратные часы" и я наслушался как ими неудобно пользоваться в бассейне))) и что надо каждый день заряжать. Как-то я услышал про Гармин и прекрасное кнопочное управление. Выбор был между Fenix и Forerunner. Феникс хорош, но мне не нужны карты. Взял Forerunner и доволен как слон.
софт, графики, удобно смотреть параметры тренировки
автоматическая синхронизация с traningpeak, strava
хорошо записывает качество сна
отлично реализовано приложение на мобильном, все красиво наглядно и понятно
UPD Спустя пару лет:
- красный датчики пульса умеют мерить беговую мощьность, интересная метрика.
- часы все еще живые, работают корректно, хотя им достается прилично...
Недостатки:
Качественных watchfaces очень мало, тоже касается виджетов и datafields. есть такие watchfaces которые тормозят смену экранов.
В триатлетном комплекте у датчиков пульса ремешок не съемный, порвался ремень и новый датчик пульса покупать надо.
маленький встроенный объем памяти, 33 слота для виджетов ватчфейсов и проч
альтиметр всегда врет, это видно по графикам, час бегал на стадионе альтиметр показал 22м набора
UPD спустя пару лет:
- у комплектных датчиков ремешок узкий, поэтому плохо держится и спадает, у меня одного такая проблема?
- последнее обновление Garmin Connect сломало уведомления с телефона...
- как выяснилось старый известная проблема, при плавании в море на высоте 0м, у алтиметра сбивается калибровка, либо снимать часы перед плаванием в море либо калибровать, странно что гармин за столько лет не починил эту проблему.
Комментарий:
Очень не хватает функции плеера, из за этого приходится на пробежки брать телефон...
Заряжаю раз в неделю, 1-2 тренировки в день, авто-подсветка офф, экран на солнце прекрасно читается без подсветки, в темноте надо включать подсветку. Часы легкие невесомые, постоянно пишут ЧСС, можно лучше анализировать состояние после тренировки.
У часов стоит адаптивная запись трека, пишет от 20 до 50 записей в минуту, после установки "каждую секунду" стал писать 60 записей в минуту, примерно в два раза больше "точек" на аналогичный трек.
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